mrsObfuscate, thank you for the post and the link which I look-forward reading tonight when time permits.
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How and Why?
by The Rebel ina recent thread i read about bethel " sending an old man packing" has bought to my attention it's one of many threads that show the most " loving" organisation in the world is cold and without love.. how can an organisation that is so unloving, have so many kind hearted people as members?.
this is the sincere question that i have not found an answer to.. the rebel..
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And so for the moment, the matter rests with punks observation Money, and may I add a declining property empire, that none the less is compensated for by inheriting members family homes.
The other deep things of " Jehovers Organisation" is there is no compensation for years wasted in the organisation, and members are further ridiculed by having to sing ridiculouse kingdom melodies which breach the term associated with pleasant singing and musical instruments being played with passion.
" Truly I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children you will never enter the kingdom oh heaven" .Translation:- No Skill/ Talent Required, to inherit the fantastic give-away offer of understanding the deeper things of Jehover. Only total 100% obedience to Jehovers organisation.
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by The Rebel ina recent thread i read about bethel " sending an old man packing" has bought to my attention it's one of many threads that show the most " loving" organisation in the world is cold and without love.. how can an organisation that is so unloving, have so many kind hearted people as members?.
this is the sincere question that i have not found an answer to.. the rebel..
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I have now pondered my O.P for two days, and my answer to my question " How such an unloving organisation can have so many kind hearted is:-
A) I must accept we all have our bind spots when rationality can take a back seat to emotions, and this is particularly true if :-
1) if a person is indoctrinated at a young age.
2) Also social pressure to remain faithful can cloud a persons judgement.
3) There is also the high cost of rejecting our faith.
Sadly my kind heartedness is not so benevolent to those that remain in the " truth" for ego and for positions of respect when they know the damage the organistion has and is doing to its members.
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Punk: (Q) " The deep Things of Jehover, what are they?
The Rebel (A) I am stamped. However I think if a poster can answer that correctly they deserve a Noble Prize, or perhaps more realistically an award for post of year.
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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?
by Heisenberg inthey say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.
i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.
they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?
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Who ever gave me the red flag, THANKYOU, i agree and lesson learnt that when writing posts I should be sure they always come out in the tone intended.
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by The Rebel ina recent thread i read about bethel " sending an old man packing" has bought to my attention it's one of many threads that show the most " loving" organisation in the world is cold and without love.. how can an organisation that is so unloving, have so many kind hearted people as members?.
this is the sincere question that i have not found an answer to.. the rebel..
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Thanks for the reply "OneEyedJoe" ...however it should be noted these " kind hearted, honest people" are now displaying hatred to people's sexual persuasion, and not kindness to their own children's individuality. Also these kind hearted honest people look forward to the day " Jehover" destroys 99% of the population he created.
I love kind hearted and honest people :-)
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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?
by Heisenberg inthey say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.
i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.
they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?
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Heisenberg.O.P " would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?
The Rebel, (A) .......Who knows?
But more to the point this is the second thread you have started in over a year
On your first thread you were " perplexed by the attitude of many on this site....."
You were " astounded" and wrote " when I hear of former JWs that now celebrate Christmas? .....You want the truth but then go back to the deepest, darkest pit of deception"
A year later you start your second thread, so a belated welcome and congratulations on your 4th post in 365 days, which read " I am amazed that they are creating these " music videos" The JWs have become what "we" we once loathed"
Personally I hope the music and the videos " you " once loathed may have played a part in comprehending the prejudice way the J.W organisation makes people think, which is an abuse of your / my " FREEWILL"
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by The Rebel ina recent thread i read about bethel " sending an old man packing" has bought to my attention it's one of many threads that show the most " loving" organisation in the world is cold and without love.. how can an organisation that is so unloving, have so many kind hearted people as members?.
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A recent thread I read about bethel " sending an old man packing" has bought to my attention it's one of many threads that show the most " loving" organisation in the world is cold and without love.
How can an organisation that is so unloving, have so many kind hearted people as members?
This is the sincere question that I have not found an answer to.
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was Darwin an atheist?
by Ruby456 inasking this q because my own feeling about this is that he probably believed in god but his evolutionary thesis is used to support atheism.
how come?
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Was Einstein an athiest?
The Rebel (A) Einstein was a genius, and there are not many of them.
Reading this thread it would appear conclusive that Einstein was a believer that became an agnostic. But what did the definition of an agnostic mean for Einstein when he wrote?:-
" The mystery of all things is insoluble by us, and I must be content to remain an agnostic" Einstein. How would his work and theories have been received at the time he presented them, if he had stated he was an athiest?
Anyway Einstein died April 18 1955, and at the time of his death he was athiest. I based this conclusion on a letter he wrote in 1954. This letter was sold back in 2012 on eBay for 3 million dollars, and addresses many philosophical themes including religion. The letter is conclusive proof that towards the end of his life he rejected the idea of a personal God.
The letter can be read on the Internet in its entirety.
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A sincere message to those from the organisation monitoring my posts....
by stuckinarut2 inso, i know there are some from my congregation or from bethel who monitor my posts..... maybe you're looking for something to catch me out?.
just a question: rather than trying to find fault with me, have you stopped and looked into the issues or facts about the organisation that caused me to come to a place like this forum??.
facts are there for anyone to find nowadays....one just has to be willing to pull their head out of the sand.....
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Unquestionably anyone monitoring a persons posts from a congregation or bethel, whose mind isn't opened by the exposure of false doctrine or whose heart isn't moved by the painstaking suffering the organisation has caused so many of its once loyal members, should question themselfs why?
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